The Readers Decide our Fate

Sedonaelection.com would like reader input as to what we should do with this site.  Here are some ideas….

Migrate to www.sedonareport.com and report on wider issues affecting Sedona and even globally.

Refocus the site on the School Board and the upcoming election.  Looking at some members of the School Board it appears this body might be infested as was the City Council.

Just go bury this thing out in the desert and go back to our lives?

Do we need a site like sedonaelection.com all the time.  Who is going to keep the new Council honest?  The RR News?  Sedona.biz?  Sedona Times?

We are leaning toward migrating to www.sedonareport.com  to cover those issues that the local media refuses to cover and to do investigative reporting on those issues that are not covered professionally and with depth.

Readers?  Let’s us hear from you.

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20 Responses to “The Readers Decide our Fate”

  1. Cassobe Says:

    Here’s One Vote for Sedonareport.com ! ! ! !

    Sedonareport.com ‘All the Time’ is important, and can cover the School Board Election, as well as keeping Us abreast of the Chamber of Commerce, City Hall………and heaven only knows what other Sedona issues that will materialize during this next year. You are Our only hope. It’s also a Great place to share information, view different sides, laugh, and get the Community Interested and talking. And besides, You don’t need a Printer.

    I know that You have taken time out of Your Own lives to produce this Site, but please know that You’re appreciated.

    P.S. Why are there still Scagnelli, Frey and Vote Yes on 400 Sign still on the Highway & streets?

  2. Doug Says:

    I would like to see Sedonareport.com out there every day as a service to our community. Sedona really needs a factcheck.org ™ of our own to keep everyone honest.

    Great job Cliff and your writers.

  3. Choice Says:

    Democracy also means constructive opposition Council company can exercise that choice (????). Lets give them a chance to repent and learn the difference from community development to community service.

  4. Involved Resident Says:

    Suggestions 1 and 2 are good. As far as “constructive opposition,” I do not think that the current Council members who lost the election are capable of discourse. They have been deceiving us for so long, it has become a habit. In addition, because of the disastrous financial decisions made by that body, we are going to face an uphill battle in making Sedona solvent again. They will have to learn about public service from the sidelines (as we did for so long) by watching how the “new” council operates. Anyway, they have the Sedona RR News and sedona.biz to spread their propoganda. Let’s leave it at that.

  5. Anonymous Says:

    Why are there still Scagnelli, Frey and Vote Yes on 400 Sign still on the Highway & streets?
    Simple: council is in disbelief. Dreams the elections to relect are around the corner and why take the trouble to install them again

  6. Bonnie Blew Says:

    In my opinion, your leading head-line this morning, “What are they hiding with their personal e-mail accounts?” holds the answer to the direction this web site should pursue.

    By limiting input to one issue, too many others might slip through the cracks since corruption appears to be attacking from varied sources encompassing all directions.

    I don’t intend to renew my subscription to the Red Rock News. Neither will I voluntarily send financial support for the Sedona Times nor will I waste my time on sedona.biz, even though it’s free.

    In agreement with others who have posted comments, this appears to be the only venue offered which will factually expose the ongoing questionable activities within and outside Sedona City Hall.

  7. Sandford Bach Says:

    Count me in. Someone has to keep a watch over you guys.

  8. Anonymous Says:

    I don’t intend to renew my subscription to the Red Rock News. Neither will I voluntarily send financial support for the Sedona Times nor will I waste my time on sedona.biz, even though it’s free…………………………

    Now Now children………
    Sedona.biz compliments sedonaelections.com
    So lets co exist. Allow one to report and other to give expert political dissection.

  9. Timothy Simpson Says:

    Anonymous, you’re very funny.The publisher of Sedona.biz is no different than the one at Red Rock News insofar as views differing from their own are either not posted or they’re edited to suit their purposes. Have you bothered to read Carl Jackson’s “Has the Poltiical Pendulum Swung Too Far?” His ongoing support for the present losers on the Sedona City Council still lingers. What an insult to suggest his biased reporting compliments sedonaelection.com in any way, shape, or form. Mr. Jackson should stick to posting articles from the Christian Science Monitor, but that’s just another opinion which is the beauty of this web site because, like it or not, it will be posted. (I think.)

  10. Involved Resident Says:

    After hearing the results of last nights P&Z meeting, as well as a question posed by the Vice Chair of the Commission about “don’t we want nighttime entertainment?” further emphasizes that although we’ve elected a new and progressive thinking council, staff and volunteers remain on the same deadend path to destroy Sedona. You must keep this blog going, or we’ll lose what little progress we’ve made in protecting Sedona’s assets. We must stay active. Attend meetings and post our comments!

  11. Cassobe Says:

    By the way, the (8) ‘Scagnelli, Frey & vote yes on 400′ signs, all came down the the day after I posted it. Do You think They’ve given up?

  12. Watchful Sedona Resident Says:

    No, number 11, for sure they have not given up and why should they? Their members are involved in every major Sedona institution – The Chamber, Main Street, etc. and City staff sympathizers still remain employees.

  13. Cassobe Says:

    :o ( You’re right.

  14. Sandford Bach Says:

    That’s the beauty of power. Just because the mole has been removed does not mean the cancer is gone. We will bide our time and take the council back just like before when Dick Ellis was iced by the Red Rock News. We still own the Chamber, control P&Z, own the staff, Main Street, etc. The election of this new council was an anomoly. Be assured, it won’t happen again.

  15. Bonnie Blew Says:

    Thank you, Sandford Bach, for helping to make our assignment easier by pointing out the facts of past strategies. You are absolutely correct about the maneuver to oust Dick Ellis and regain control at City Hall.

    Now that the tables have turned, “they” will be more fierce than ever. But, at least at this juncture, you appropriately indicate the true source of Sedona’s established policy to ignore the voices of citizens stems from Departments of Community Development and Planning & Zoning, whose ongoing recommendations tend to serve the Chamber of Commerce, developers, and others in positions of gaining financially. Foolish since Sedona’s true wealth lies within the geographical beauty which is where the cancer continues to grow under the auspices of rotten apples.

    Yep, let the will of the people be damned! Maybe at least for a little while there is hope that credo will be stifled. However, to be forewarned is to be forearmed. Heads up folks. Be prepared for big time retaliation. (They are soooo predictable.)

  16. Sandford Bach Says:

    True string pullers in municipalities know the real power does not lie with the elected officials, who are usually pawns that come and go according to the will of the power structure and sometimes, rarely, the will of the people. It is in the city staff in places like Community Development and P&Z where they not only have tenured staff in key positions but operatives in the commissions themselves. It’s an old college trick students in student government learn and apply with precision, as Jeremiah Perez and a certain editor in this town (former classmates of mine) would attest. Simply put your people in everywhere decisions have to be made. Stack the government. Hire amenable staff. Stack the commissions and committees. If you lose one pillar of power, you still have the others to hold your enterprise up. Thus, Sedona is in no real danger of being changed for the good in any way. You are on spot with your observation Bonnie but there is little anyone in Sedona can do to stop us.

  17. Bonnie Blew Says:

    Seems to me an unidentified ploy to success might lie within the vast number of registered voters who DO NOT VOTE.

    I’ve attempted, to no avail so far, to ascertain the “official” tally of the last Sedona election. It appears that somewhere between 50 and 60 percent of registered voters exercised their right to do so.

    Therefore, wouldn’t it be a creditable effort to seize control by tapping into the source since it might very easily fall within the ability to convince the non-voters, who continue to sit in silence, to participate and mark that ballot and mail it? Isn’t it a no brainer to not even be required to leave one’s house except to place the ballot in a mail box? The option is certainly available to either “side” and the past few elections you, Sandford, and your control freaks have been more successful at doing just that.

    Isn’t it feasible that whichever “side” could latch on to that apathetic segment might easily reign in victory two years from now, in addition to and in spite of your accurate revelations?

    Bottom line: Isn’t apathy the real enemy?

    Changing channels for a moment here, wouldn’t it be lovely if City Council members were to re-evaluate their policy regarding “micro-management”. Isn’t the trend to rubber stamp staff recommendations so freely simply a carte blanche approach to continuing down the road to ruin?

  18. James Harrington Says:

    Wake up Sandford Bach and Bonnie Blew. Don’t either one of you realize that by State Statute government employees are pretty much “untouchable”?

  19. Sandford Bach Says:

    Trust me James, they are quite touchable. Their positions are not invulnerable.

    When Templar Grand Master Joques do Molay was cooked by King Phillip IV in 1307, he uttered these dying words …

    “Those who stand behind the shadows! Know this! The day of your rule ends with the birth of time.”

    He was one of the most used fools in history.

  20. Sandford Bach Says:

    When Templar Grand Master Joques do Molay was cooked by King Phillip IV in 1307, he uttered these dying words …

    “Those who stand behind the shadows! Know this! The day of your rule ends with the birth of time.”

    He was one of the most used fools in history.

 

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